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		<title>How do rotated supports work</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dorien Elleboog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2018 07:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you rotate a support, it can only take reaction in the direction of the rotation. So if you rotate for example a support in the Y direction (= left support in the image) over an angle of α  ↻ in the XY plane, it means that the resulting reaction forces (RX and RY)...]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>If you rotate a support, it can only take reaction <strong>in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the direction of the rotation</span></strong>.</div>
<div>So if you rotate for example a support in the Y direction (= left support in the image) over an angle of α  ↻ in the XY plane, it means that</div>
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<ul>
<li>the resulting reaction forces (R<sub>X</sub> and R<sub>Y</sub>) in Y and X direction are related.<br />
R<sub>X</sub> = R * sin (α)<br />
R<sub>Y</sub> = R * cos (α)<img decoding="async" loading="lazy" class="wp-image-2967 size-medium aligncenter" src="http://buildsoftsupport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports9-300x114.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="114" srcset="https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports9-300x114.jpg 300w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports9-50x19.jpg 50w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports9-60x23.jpg 60w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports9-35x13.jpg 35w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports9.jpg 624w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" />Otherwise, the resulting vector for the reaction can never have the same angle α as the support.</li>
<li>the rotated Y support <strong>can not be seen as a combination of a support in the Y and X-direction (although that is what you would expect)</strong>. Because in the latter case, there is no correlation between the magnitude of the reactions in Y and X direction (while that is the case in a rotated support).</li>
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<p><img decoding="async" loading="lazy" class="aligncenter wp-image-2945 size-medium" src="http://buildsoftsupport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports-300x50.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="50" srcset="https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports-300x50.jpg 300w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports-768x128.jpg 768w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports-50x8.jpg 50w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports-60x10.jpg 60w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports-35x6.jpg 35w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports.jpg 793w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></p>
<ul>
<li>Finding equilibrium with rotated supports is not guaranteed.</li>
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<p>An example:</p>
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<li>Consider a beam loaded in the middle with a point load Q. The boundary conditions are:
<ul>
<li>In A: support in Y direction, rotated 45° ↻</li>
<li>In B: support in Y direction, not rotated<br />
<img decoding="async" loading="lazy" class="size-full wp-image-2946 aligncenter" src="http://buildsoftsupport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports2.jpg" alt="" width="287" height="261" srcset="https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports2.jpg 287w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports2-50x45.jpg 50w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports2-60x55.jpg 60w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports2-35x32.jpg 35w" sizes="(max-width: 287px) 100vw, 287px" /></li>
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</li>
<li>The load Q can be split into two components Q<sub>X</sub> and Q<sub>Y</sub>.<img decoding="async" loading="lazy" class="size-large wp-image-2947 aligncenter" src="http://buildsoftsupport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports3.jpg" alt="" width="293" height="265" srcset="https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports3.jpg 293w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports3-50x45.jpg 50w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports3-60x54.jpg 60w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports3-35x32.jpg 35w" sizes="(max-width: 293px) 100vw, 293px" /></li>
<li>The horizontal load Q<sub>X</sub> must be beared by support A, resulting in a reaction R<sub>A.X</sub>.<img decoding="async" loading="lazy" class="aligncenter wp-image-2948 size-full" src="http://buildsoftsupport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports4.jpg" alt="" width="294" height="265" srcset="https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports4.jpg 294w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports4-50x45.jpg 50w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports4-60x54.jpg 60w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports4-35x32.jpg 35w" sizes="(max-width: 294px) 100vw, 294px" /></li>
<li>Since support A can only bear forces in this <img decoding="async" loading="lazy" class="img_inline alignnone size-full wp-image-2950" src="http://buildsoftsupport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports6.jpg" alt="" width="41" height="47" srcset="https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports6.jpg 41w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports6-31x35.jpg 31w" sizes="(max-width: 41px) 100vw, 41px" /> direction, also the vertical component of the load Q<sub>Y</sub> must be beared by support A.<img decoding="async" loading="lazy" class="aligncenter wp-image-2949 size-full" src="http://buildsoftsupport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports5.jpg" alt="" width="284" height="274" srcset="https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports5.jpg 284w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports5-50x48.jpg 50w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports5-60x58.jpg 60w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports5-35x35.jpg 35w" sizes="(max-width: 284px) 100vw, 284px" /></li>
<li>Since R<sub>A.X</sub> = Q<sub>X</sub> and R<sub>A.Y</sub> = Q<sub>Y</sub>, it follows that R<sub>A</sub> = Q. Translational equilibrium is met. Now let&#8217;s write a rotational equilibrium around point A: Q * 0.5* L = 0<img decoding="async" loading="lazy" class="aligncenter wp-image-2958 size-medium" src="http://buildsoftsupport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Support8-300x252.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="252" srcset="https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Support8-300x252.jpg 300w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Support8-50x42.jpg 50w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Support8-60x50.jpg 60w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Support8-35x29.jpg 35w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Support8.jpg 505w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" />Conclusions:
<ul>
<li>With the current boundary conditions no rotational equilibrium can be found.</li>
<li>You&#8217;ll get the message in Diamonds: equilibrium issues in the following direction(s): X; Y.<sup><a id="ref*" href="#fn*">*</a></sup></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>It would be a different story when point A would be a support in the Y and X-direction. Then support A would take the horizontal force Q<sub>X</sub> and support B the vertical force Q<sub>Y</sub>. There would be no vertical reaction in support A (R<sub>A.Y</sub>=0). The rotational equilibrium would be met.<img decoding="async" loading="lazy" class="aligncenter wp-image-2952 size-full" src="http://buildsoftsupport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports7.jpg" alt="" width="273" height="286" srcset="https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports7.jpg 273w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports7-48x50.jpg 48w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports7-57x60.jpg 57w, https://support.buildsoft.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Supports7-33x35.jpg 33w" sizes="(max-width: 273px) 100vw, 273px" /></li>
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<p><sup id="fn*">* The message on equilibrium issues can also have other causes. If your model didn&#8217;t contain rotated supports, please send your model (*.bsf-file) to the support desk (support@buildsoft.eu) <a title="Jump back to footnote * in the text." href="#ref*"><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/72x72/21a9.png" alt="↩" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></a></sup></p>
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